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Obama signs order to close Guantanemo Bay

Posted by mykela1 on January 24, 2009

On Thursday, Obama signed multiple executive orders, one of which will result in the permanent closure of Guantanemo Bay. Another order was made to close all of the CIA’s secret foreign prisons which have long been critizied for their treatment of prisoners. After reading this article, I really do have hope that Obama’s administration will help to rebuild our country’s reputation abroad and relationships with foreign countries. In the spirit of global citizenship, Obama has questioned our government’s treatment of detainees and is taking action to correct these wrongs.

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6 Responses to “Obama signs order to close Guantanemo Bay”

  1. Mykela (I hope I spelled that right), could you tell me why people think we need to treat prisoners humanely? despite the fact that they were plotting to kill American citizens???

    *Note #1: Keep in mind that this is in no way a personal attack on you, or your personal views. I am trying to take this opportunity to embrace other viewpoints and try to understand them. So if you could please give me a logical, unbiased argument, I would appreciate it very much.
    *Note #2: When I am speaking of prisoners, I am referring to those at Guantanamo Bay that were plotting terrorist attacks (I have no knowledge of what any other prisoners are being held for, or if there are any for that matter).

  2. mayacu said

    What a great first step to fostering international cooperation and friendships! Obama could be the person able to carry out Jonathan’s proposal for “amiable relations between all of the countries in the world,” from his reflection on Cesar Gaviria’s lecture.

  3. bklunk said

    It seems to me that holding prisoners in Guantanamo was in and of itself not a bad thing. What was problematic was the whole military tribunals, hold you indefinitely without bringing charges against you, not letting you see a lawyer, etc. business, pretty much all of which the US Supreme Court has repudiated. Oh, and the torture part. Even Thomas Hobbes (nobody’s idea of a softie) understood that torture was irrational. Guantanamo became an unnecessary symbol for all that.

  4. mykela1 said

    I think that all prisoners, regardless of what crimes they have committed, have certain human rights that deserve to be respected and upheld, especially by the United States, a country built on the virtues of due process of the law and minimal infringement upon personal liberties. The right to a fair trial with a lawyer is one of these. And no prisoner should ever have to fear torture. We cannot control what our enemies may do to American prisoners of war whom they capture, but we can control what we do to the foreign detainees under our imprisonment. I do not think that any of us would like to see American POWs held without a trial or subjugated to torture, and I believe that the phrase “treat others as you would like to be treated” should come into play. Torturing detainees will only intensify hatred felt towards Americans and increase their willingness to do the same to Americans whom they capture. Also, a multitude of studies have shown that torture does not reap reliable information. When tortured, prisoners “confess” what ever it is that their captors want them too, regardless of what the truth may be. Therefore, since the US is the leading superpower in the world today, we should be leading by example and not stooping to the levels of those we are trying to interrogate.

  5. mayacu said

    I agree with what Mykela said in her comment and I want to add this… When we torture, abuse, or in any way mistreat prisoners of war then we become just as bad if not worse than those we are fighting. We claim to be a country with equal rights and opportunities for all and this includes a fair trial with a lawyer, unbiased jury of peers, and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment. This brings up the question of national citizenship and the rights that go along with that VS global citizenship and the desire to have those laudable rights extended to all humanity. It is awfully hypocritical to say that our country stands for one thing, but then not extend that to everyone. We are acting as if only the citizens of our country are deserving of respect and clemency and therefore we are standing in the way of and working against global citizenship.

  6. byersk said

    I think the reason detainees were held in Guantanemo or other areas outside of the United States was so that they would not be extended U.S. rights. That being said, I agree that is hypocritical to establish rights for citizens of the US and not extend them to the rest of humanity

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